I don't have enough knowledge about this "online readers vs scanlators" fiasco, nor do I know anything about Shi-Ki or its works. Yet, by first impressions on that "farewell" message, I can say that wasn't complaining, that was bitching. 461r3k

Note the difference.

I am grateful for whatever work he (she, they...?) did towards the manga scanlation community and he will be missed, yet he needs to start putting determination in what he's doing, because... a troll? a f****ing troll made him see the light? really?

"if we [,Shi-Ki,] never did any scanlations we wouldn’t have this problem."

Must I you that you're not alone in this? Not that I'm part of it, but there are other scanlators in the biz, buster.

I don't know, it just sounds too fishy to me, I call it a mediocre intent to look for an excuse to call it quits.

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oh... that's how... mystery solved. I could see how they would blame us for that guys actions just based on that profile.

Read up, mate.

If he's fired, I will rage since it will kill the part of the drama that's entertaining me the most.

yes you're right about T1 not being alone in this, I'm an scanlator myself and I know others that also share his point of view heck I would have quited scanlation years ago if it wasn't because of a selfish reason to want to keep on reading manga that nobody else would scanlate since I'm someone that likes to do stuff instead of hopping somebody else would do it for me, now the difference is I'm an editor and T1 is translator so this reason wouldn't apply for him because if I could translate I would certainly not waste my time doing it for ungrateful people like you

I'm sorry, but with all sincerity, I can't give a proper answer to something I can't completely understand. Meaning that I can't entirely comprehend what you're saying.

Yet, I'll gladly respond to what I could get from it: Did you even thoroughly read what I just typed?

Also, if you're in the game for selfish reasons, then you're in the game for the wrong reasons.
This is a community, from everyone to everyone, if we start discriminating scanlators from non-scanlators, then the scanlation community will wither, much to my disgrace and much to your apparent content.
I repeat, your contributions are appreciated, regardless of whatever reasons attracted you to the community.
Now if you would excuse me, I have my own stuff to do, and I like to do it too.
PS: My suspicions still stand.

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You know, people who choose to do what they want will continue to do just that. Basically, no amount of anything will change someones mind who's out to get something. You can whine, they'll whine right back at you. You can threaten, they'll threaten back. You can etc and they'll etc right back at you. You should basically stop caring because in general, no one cares on the internet.

But I guess at the end of the day, this guy did abuse his privileges and should be fired.

dosetsu the wise.

I gained +3 IQ by reading this comment. Did anybody else feel smarter?

The majority of scanlators is really in for 'selfish' reasons, e.g. promoting own reading interests, wanting to read certain manga nobody else would do or simply training in language learning or image editing. This isn't negative. It's the drive, the motivation, of most people who do scanlations. People who do it solely for the 'community feeling' are pretty rare to find. In fact, many groups are pretty protective on their releases, sharing limited. Again, it's nothing bad.

And we don't need to start discriminating. Leecher jokes among scanlators are as ancient as the scene is by now. There's a large number of groups who release only/first within protected communities to let the 'actively grateful' readers have at least a time advance on the grab-and-run leechers. It's certainly a debatable way to release but nonetheless old and not uncommon.

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the release mod status didnt give him any powers to abuse he just happened to be a douche and ed other groups works to manga readers (rule of thumb is if you didn't do it don't it). The only reason MU has anything to do with this is he posted that he is a MU release mod on his Mangafox page. I think he should be fired for bringing the drama here, the fact that he did crap on MF has nothing to do with us but bringing this site in on it is a much bigger issue.

too many replies i just skimmed it all...for now i'm on HALT on doing anything at MF

why am I the target here?

I am now gonna 'manga.dreamer' the main of Mangafox and request her to take down as a Super, the named "MangaFox" (http://forums.mangafox.com/member.php?u=2)

You cloud also blame 'Kaldr' (http://forums.mangafox.com/member.php?u=599724) a QC staff of Mangafox. I know that he follows rules regarding delays, but sometimes there are other MF ing releases and sometimes he can't organize it all and some of the submit gets ed even if the delay rule (hour/day) is not yet done.

I'm sorry Kaldr for involving you, i'm not mad at you, and I know it's very hard being a single QC on MF. The 'MangaFox' is the culprit.

For now, i'll w8 the reply of manga.dreamer(Jacky) and see what she'll decide...

Just to repeat, i'm NOT on mangafox's side.

So what you are saying is that the one that approves releases before time is "Mangafox" and you are not the culprit.
But if you know that (that he approves your s before time), why don't you AFTER the s delays imposed by scanlators?

named 'MangaFox' doesn't approve his own releases. he is a Super wherein if he s, it won't go on the waiting list to be approved (approved by a QC) and his will automatically ed on site.
The only active QC staff on MF that I know is 'Kaldr' and he is the one who is managing the s on the waiting list to be approved. Normally, on MF can't just add/ a chapter. It needs to be approved first by a QC (Kaldr). The ones that are bying the waiting list are called 'Whitelist'
I have been Whitelisted by 'manga.dreamer', and I know that is a very wrong decision.

I already emailed 'manga.dreamer' to cancel my whitelisting status. Waiting for reply.

If it is so, I thinks all this debate is solved then.
Now, OT, I hope you don't stop contributing as you did up until now: you need a bit more 100 chapters and you will be first as contributor.
It would be a shame if you stopped now. XD
Best wishes.
Have a great day and don't be discouraged, ok?