Hello, I'm looking for some recommendations for Yaoi where the bottom is the rough, yakuza-ish kind of guy, while the top is a pretty boy/well, someone you wouldn't expect to be a top. I love seeing role reversals in which the guy who seems to obviously be the seme is actually the uke and vice versa. 2q232a

Something like Okosama Star. I'm open to different sorts of couples (opposites attract/enemies is a favorite trope lol) and switching. I'm also open to f/m couples and f/f couples as long as they aren't just side pairings.

If there are similar threads I apologize!

Moved to Yaoi/Yuri.

This is one of my favorite tropes!

The only one that comes to mind right now is Nirameba Koi, but look under the Delinquent Uke and Tough Uke tags, there are some really good ones. Maybe also the Seme-like Uke, Masculine Uke, Muscular Uke, and Violent Uke tags.

"The great man is he who in the midst of the crowd keeps with perfect sweetness the independence of solitude." - from Self-Reliance by Ralph Waldo Emerson

I'd say this is my favourite trope, provided the "tough" uke doesn't turn into a whiny crybaby in bed, which is, unfortunately, the more common outcome. (I really don't understand why the BL genre is so stagnant and predictable, maybe I'm just too old for it now 😐 )

Anyway, recs!
A Song of Blood and Fire - I didn't like this at all, but it does fit your request.

Also, definitely check out the categories meshy has mentioned, above.

Thank you!!! I'm definitely going to check out your recommendation! And I forgot about the tags so I'm definitely going to be binge reading 😎

@calstine
Oooooh I'm excited for all these recs, thank you so much!!! I'm glad I'm not the only one who loves this trope lol and I don't mind if the tough uke turns into a whiny, cry baby-provided if the sex is rough-I would cry too lmao. Though it honestly just depends on my mood and how realistic it is-sudden tears out of nowhere can definitely be offputting, especially if it's coupled with the trope of a stoic top who never stops being stoic even during sex rolls eyes

I personally find the trope of the tough uke turning soft at sex more appealing because for me, it shows that the uke trusts his partner to see him that vulnerable. but I do agree that turning into a whiny crybaby can be way too much, I personally haven't come across a tough uke turning into a crybaby in bed yet but I can imagine it would be cringe.

@DorkFishOK
There is such trope? Damn, this is sad. 😭

Yakuza-sama no omocha immediately came to my mind. It has a rather sweet overall feeling though, but I really like it. There's also a side story which is a bit darker and I might like it even more than the main story.

ones ive read (sorry i dont understand how to embed links 😢)
https://mangaupdates.conexionsite.com/series/981pp56/relationship-that-works

for more, do search through this website tags
https://mangaupdates.conexionsite.com/series.html?category=Manly+Uke

and this thread from a different website
https://mangaupdates.conexionsite.com/forum/threads/seme-like-uke-x-manly-bottom.338744/

ps i also dislike the stoic top troupe 😔

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